Thread compilation: Bamboo grass well
シンヤ
(1998/5/10 03:32:58)
It is the thread which talks the sawed personal computer, concerning the M5. Of course also the game personal computer M5 of the タカラ and the topic regarding forest tail reason beauty are the well cam.
Sawed m5
Comment of bamboo grass well シンヤ
(1998/5/10 05:01:46)
Sawed one, when you look at the catalog, when it becomes the printing type, is the M5, but, with logograph the m.5 it becomes small letter, furthermore there are some like period of the アミ point.
As for being a labor assistant in the catalog of the latter term, the m5pro the m5jr. Thing. The first generation 49800 Yen, pro 39800 Yen, Jr. Is 29800 Yen.
By the way, the first generation and the Pro the Jr. As specifications being almost identical, expandability differs. Because substance form differs, you cannot connect extended unit, it is is. Don't you think? it is the same as the generally known PC engine * shuttle. The ま ぁ, if the empty it probably is the same what, it makes the ムキダシ, you can use, imagining whether it is is not, it increases the basis.
The first generation and the Pro completely are expectation of identical specification. Also shape is the same, but color as for the Pro with grey Ishiki, is plain tremendously, but there is a smart impression, is groovy is. As for size the first generation and Pro B5 size, Jr. B5 size and Jr. One will be a little largely, is.
M5 of タカラ
Comment of bamboo grass well シンヤ
(1998/5/10 05:06:50)
It is the person, game personal computer M5. This there was a catalog.
It seems that the text of the BASIC of monkey punch belongs (laughing)
The アオリ complaint which is riding the catalog will be introduced. First from cover.
" Oh with you will insert in numerous viewing of the charm which is surprised. "
" Various charm 100% "
" Authorized edition of personal computer age! "
Content it goes.
" The B5 size which the ち ょ is and is conspicuous "
" わ る paste excitation universal player "
" Dear Sir-Madam, it is my game person. "
* & & & *
Don't you think? something the スゴ it is and is.
Overlooking, it increases
Comment of bamboo grass well シンヤ
(1998/5/10 05:09:37)
Line-up of the タカラ, seems that is another.
Being to be 49800 Yen it does, the game personal computer M5, but while selling, with there is also a joy controller attaching set " game personal computer " \59800.
With as for the notion that where you say, the person of 59800 Yen the " game personal computer ", 49800 Yen the " game personal computer M5 " being?
The う - it is, you do not understand well.
BASIC-G
Comment of bamboo grass well シンヤ
(1998/5/10 05:19:16)
BASIC of attachment BASIC-I. Vis-a-vis that, what difference it is done to sell, is this BASIC-G for 9800 Yen.
With the ベーマガ " to make the game, the strongest " name was designated as desired way, this BASIC. Actually when it is enormous, it is forcing.
As for me the M5 has not been used, it is is, but (even now we want, it is is, -), according to the catalog, the BG plainness and the sprite plainness have divided, it is possible 32 to have sprite. In addition, the PSG of 6 octave 3 chords enabled (as for this way is normal but).
So, something is enormous?
Is information from the friend but, with the BASIC-G movement of sprite, can be appointed in coordinate ahead moving seems, is. When " move to here " the っ て it appoints, it keeps flying there angrily, so.
# Whether Imai ち inaccuracy しれません. When the person who knows details is, writing by all means,
By the way, both the BASIC-I and the BASIC-G it was integer type, you have remembered. As for the BASIC of real number type, " the BASIC-F " っ て what you say, in addition is the difference sale. This way when if anything is the graph and for technical calculation, it does not peel in the game.
あ, oneself less
Comment of bamboo grass well シンヤ
(1998/5/10 06:19:39)
" With Bunchu of sawed m5 " of first one,
" For the sake of * & * substance form differs ", " the Jr. For the sake of * & * " substance form differs it is the mistake. Subject comes out, falling, it increases (^^;
M 5 ぷ ろ
Comment of Kow
(1998/5/11 22:06:11 -
As for the certain Pro both BASIC car ridge as for being attached, it starts
The way you have remembered, but.
Information processing loyal retainer test
And comment of じ
(1998/5/13 02:17:41)
Looking at the rear of application of information processing test, i am
The " SORD M5 " had entered into the list of the bringing prohibition computer.
As for the person whom such a ones it tries probably to bring, with just that to passing
You thought doing. (It is different? (^ ^))
So わ
Catalog
Comment of Saiey
(1998/5/13 08:28:49)
Photo studioBecause the catalog photograph of the M5 was published to the photo studio, please view by all means.
And the っ ぱ M5 っ て it is groovy, is, don't you think?. Well enough it is favorite design.
Bringing prohibition stopping * & * (^^; . There is no M5 っ て cCrt, you can use, it is is? It becomes the portable calculator when?->
MOVE order
And comment of ま can
(1998/5/14 22:27:38 -
You write for the first time.
It is the user of M5jr + BASIC-G.
As for the bamboo grass well being written, you think as the ことだ of MOVE order perhaps.
When there are 2 types of TO and STEP in the MOVE, it is the TO, until it is attached to the coordinate which is appointed being something where it moves selfishly, when it is the STEP, keeps moving to the direction which is appointed directly, it did.
When MOVE order is used, it is necessary to appoint that, post number other than sprite number, because the number of this posts is not enough, (the kana which 12 is certain?) Sprite everything 32 it is not possible to be able to point to the disjointed movement simultaneously.
However, being JOINT order, being to be possible to regard plural sprite one, as for moving the plural sprite which move together with this with one post you think it was possible.
The indicatory function of BASIC-G
And comment of ま can
(1998/5/14 23:15:01 -
The VDP of the M5 was the TMS9918A which such as MSX in many personal computers was used.
But, when you compare to the MSX, as for the BASIC-G of the M5, normality order of the BASIC had managed the efficiency of the VDP rather.
Making the good quality of this BASIC-G contrast, with the MSX, you think several we would like to try writing.
* GRAPHIC II with the text you use
With the MSX the generally known " many colors it prints and " is called " screen 1.5 " and so on " with only the VDP as a GRAPHIC II, the top of the BASIC it moves as screen 1 does with those which ".
As for this the BASIC of the MSX because you could not use screen 0 - 1 the text, only with 2 - 3 as a graphics, calling the BIOS, being to use, it does, but, with the BASIC-G, the text and being graphics both, mode other than the TEXT it was designed in such a way that you can use, when (the GINIT is executed, it becomes graphics).
* Plural pages with of GRAPHIC I
Making use of the being less crowded territory of the VRAM, modifying the first address of the pattern name table, as had the plural pictures just, being something which you camouflage, it does.
With the MSX-BASIC, it was necessary to use the BASE sentence which is not excessively explained even with the manual, but, with the BASIC-G page change was prepared usually.
* View port
Being something which decides the range which uses the picture, it hits to the WIDTH as it is called in the MSX and the like.
If with the MSX the work area is not rewritten, only changing the breadth of the picture it is possible, furthermore position adjusted to the center.
With the BASIC-G, in the order, VIEW, appointing the coordinate with respect to the left, and the coordinate under the right it can divide the picture range.
* Character * scroll
Being something which the text on the picture (the PCG), is shifted on up and down left and right, it does, but, you think with the mostly BASIC with only the scroll to above, unless machine language is used, being slow, cannot do, other things from under it was equal.
With the M5 the BASIC supported the character * scroll to up and down left and right.
* PCG
With the MSX you write on the VRAM directly with the VPOKE, but, with the BASIC-G order for the PCG definition, STCHR existed.
* Collision decision of sprite
With the MSX " sprite of some turn flies sprite of some turn, as for obtaining the information that you use ", you thought it was not possible, but, with the BASIC-G it could know with the function, COINC.
Difference with the M5jr and M5 and pro
And comment of ま can
(1998/5/14 23:26:01 -
" Extended unit cannot connect with the M5jr, " it was written, but, the in addition to that with the jr the variety it seems that is shaved in order to reduce price.
As a difference,
* Printer * the port it is
* Video there is no output, (only the RF)
* Cassette * in interface the REMOTE terminal it is
* The M5 and the pro are the AC adapter, but, as for the jr the AC-DC converter built-in
* RESET button in START button, BREAK key in RESET key modification
End? Is, but, just the certain jr something, the kind of air which has become just a little modification does.
After all, with the jr among another sale option peripheral devices, the joystick and the joy pad, about only the data recorder you think whether it is not not to be able to use.
Comment of Saiey
(1998/5/15 09:55:32)
The わ - it is. And the っ which is ま can! (^-^)
As expected, don't you think? the M5 is many functions, -.
Using the MSX2, if there is the order which you know whether the て, " some sprite strikes -. " The っ て thinking enormously, it increased. The BASIC of the M5 met, don't you think? it is is. Calling -. How much having teaching that it strikes with the interruption, unless there is this order, almost there is no meaning becoming. After all.
In M5jr being attached
Comment of bamboo grass well シンヤ
(1998/5/16 03:04:52)
And ま can, beginning.
The person, same " and the ま can " being, the X1turbo and the Mac and the X68000 * it is the user of 2 and the AT compatible machine even in my friend who lives triply when, but you tried probably to be detailed so much with something concerning the M5, it was another person, don't you think? it is is, (my friend " and the ま can ", as for this page the expectation which is seen. - Being, seeing and the cod coming out it is dense, -).
That anyhow.
The variety being shaved with the M5jr, with while saying, " the AC-DC converter built-in " on the other hand is merit, don't you think?. Because about the AC adapter it is it is not is even in the disturbance, don't you think?. The Mega gong + Mega CD, the Family Computer + disk system, " use disliking as many as 2, " because with it stops wanting to shout, don't you think? the ぇ. Don't you think? a as expected there is going around huge sufficient thing.
So, only the RF the っ て it is painful to say, don't you think? is. The difference っ て of 10000 Yen saying, because 200000 Yen and 210000 Yen if anyhow, 29800 and 39800 is, don't you think?. It is the big difference in the boys of the expectation which is buying layer of main don't you think?.
And comment of ま can
(1998/5/16 16:34:27 -
Densely it is as for 00, the Saiey.
Not just the collision decision of sprite, as for the BASIC-G of the M5 game compilation, the kind of air which " can be made easy " does.
I do, being to buy the Matsushita, MSX2 same next, as the Saiey of the M5jr FS-A1 but, first " the game it is difficult to make ", you thought.
Even the MSX-BASIC does, being to be the BASIC which is easy to make the game sufficiently but, I of that time so only the M5 being not to know, don't you think? it is not to be able to think.
AC adapter
And comment of ま can
(1998/5/16 17:07:51 -
Beginning, bamboo grass well.
The あ, using the after all same name, the る one っ て it comes, don't you think? it is is.
It is the name may be good, but, temporarily familiarly being not to be, you used until now.
So, AC adapter.
Certainly, the adapter where the electrical outlet part is large is the disturbance, don't you think?.
The note personal computer it is many, as for the electrical outlet when in a normal way, it is the kind of shape where the adapter is attached on the middle of the cord/code, vicinity of the electrical outlet may be clear, however it is is.
So, when it is the AC adapter, not remodelling the substance, the battery it may be able to drive simply, is, don't you think?.
Perhaps, doing, the M5 of battery drive and the person who brought the liquid crystal television are in National Examination for Information Processing Technicians are probably will be or, (laughing)?
When I buy the M5jr, when nothing it is known truly, being to choose simply cheaper one, it does, but don't you think?, although in game purpose it is not visible in the great difference, the difference of 1 ten thousand Yen probably is to be large.
Simply, only the RF in me did not become matter of concern, (there was no TV of the video input terminal being attached) being, almost influence it was not other than the REMOTE terminal, is actual, (be also a money which buys the peripheral device of option with intimately).
It is enormous the keyboard
And comment of ま can
(1998/5/16 19:16:40 -
The keyboard of the M5, with the rubber key, furthermore pitch of the key was narrow because the substance is small, touch type how it was the far world.
But, those where it is feature the above that are that " the numbers of keys are few ".
If you look at the photograph of the catalog, you think it is understood, but, there is no ten-key there is no level which is said.
Being that the special key 7 (from with respect to the left side [ the FUNC ] [ the CTRL ] [ the SHIFT ], [ the RESET ] [ the RETURN ] [ the SPACE ] [ the SHIFT ]) have no other choice but to from on the right side, it does.
The machine っ て which is not even the cursor key, is not to be unusual well enough, probably will be?
With the BASIC, as for function of the key which is not enough, while pushing the mostly CTRL key, it had reached the point where it does by the fact that you push some key.
As for cursor movement [ @ ] [ / ] [; ] [: ] Being allocated by four keys, even with the marketing game and the like, when you play with the keyboard, these keys were used in movement. Because of this, although as for the cursor key it does not exist to strictness, it seems that called these keys the cursor key among tacit.
Keyboard
Comment of bamboo grass well シンヤ
(1998/5/16 20:40:46)
There to be a keyboard of the M5, you call to the ゴムキーパソコン of that class tend arrangement, or in other words as a largest merit " you have been attached to the place where the space key is outrageous ", don't you think? it is with the っ lever. The JR-100 or the ZX-81 being similar to the eye which was seen, don't you think? it increases.
In the normal personal computer also the " space bar " calls, but as for the M5 and the like " the bar " or.
To unite the long program, hard so is, don't you think?. If the ぴ ゅ う the Mk2 we would like to see there is a model of the hard key thickly, to being good. If originally, you think designation of the Pro should be given to such model, however it is is, don't you think? the ぇ.
If there is a keyboard revised model......
And comment of ま can
(1998/5/17 18:19:02 -
The key of the JR-100 and the ZX-81 it is little, don't you think? it is above the M5.
It is low, you hold down to price, but shifting the strain of for the sake of...... probably will be?
The rubber key it is to place and, the reaction becoming bad,, it does also the kind of air which has kind of the fact that the finger has become painful in order to push strongly.
Don't you think? already when the just a little マシ it is the keyboard, to being good, with everyone you think.
When ' in the プログラムポシェット ' magazine, " at least the keyboard is like family BASIC ", you remembered that it is written.
Keyboard
Comment of Saiey
(1998/5/18 09:54:43)
Obtaining! There is no cursor key?
あ! Space key っ!
When you see carefully, enormous (^^; Don't you think? it is the keyboard.
When moving to the other machine, as for position of the especially space key you weren't confused?
Position of space key
And comment of ま can
(1998/5/18 16:37:52 -
When moving to the MSX2 from the M5, there is no memory that you were confused with the especially space key, don't you think? is.
At the time of the M5 while looking at the key, the ポツリポツリ practicing touch type that it has struck with finger 1, without looking at the key with 10 fingers, being to reach the point where it strikes, whether it influences also the change of method of striking, the しれません.
Temporarily, because the keyboard changes even too excessively, first you think it failed various types, but, as for just position of the space key becoming matter of concern you think it was not.
Temporarily
Yamazaki's comment
(1998/5/19 01:23:25 -
From the bamboo grass well シンヤ, something you write with order something that writing, (laughing)
With it was beginning of the venture, say concerning sawed, but only recognition about of the pitiful company which was crushed in the major company being not to have, the っ which is not the times when you write it does.
あ -, today
Comment of bamboo grass well シンヤ
(1998/5/19 13:34:32)
Yamazaki it is and and others the っ plain gauze is.
My friend " and the ま can " is, don't you think?.
If the う - the む, there are no times when you write, you think you should have written on with also the thread of the X1, but as for that that.
Sawed being crushed in the major company, is pitiful, but, the president makes say now selling the AT compatible machine, the buoy buoy, don't you think? so is.
Original sawed president っ て
And comment of ま can
(1998/5/19 19:10:17 -
Yamazaki, beginning.
Former sawed president made the professional side, it is the っ け which is?
Certain, it seems that that kind of thing is written on Miyanaga's of the DOS / V Magazine serialization.
Game software of M5
And comment of ま can
(1998/6/18 05:28:43)
It was published to the ベーマガ '86 year January edition, " it sells and exhausts and from announcement of sale ", it is game software name summary of the M5.
Game (each 4,800 Yen, only ジャンキョウ 6,500 Yen)
GRC-1 dig Doug
GRC-2 タンクバタリアン
GRC-3 ボスコニアン
GRC-4 ギャラックス
GRC-5 power pack
GRC-6 loom & loom
GRC-7 super cobra
GRC-8 ガッタンゴットン
GRC-9 moon patrol
GRC-10 step-up
GRC-11 プーヤン
GRC-12 heavy boxing
GRC-14 real tennis
GRC-15 ワードメイズ
GRC-16 wander - hole
GRC-17 アップルーン
GRC-18 rise rise balloon
GRC-19 マッピー
GRC-21 ドリームショッパー
GRC-22 エスキモン
GRC-23 funny mouse
GRC-24 ジャンキョウ (mah-jongg game)
AGC super adventure 9,800 Yen
The AGT-1 - it was, it is less crowded, (the tape) 4,800 Yen
In AGT-2 in げ ろ in げ ろ げ ろ (tape) 4,800 Yen
Cartridge game 2,800 Yen
GRC-B1 fruit search
GRC-B2 dragon attack
GRC-B3 pit chaser
Cassette tape 1,800 Yen
GCT-1 スネーキー barrier - attack
GCT-2 jogging Sidewinder
The Tower of Hanoi GCT-3 Soviet Lee tear
GCT-4 three circle number search
GCT-5 blackjack slot machine
GCT ｰ 6 terrestrial last day minister To wreck
GCT-7 affinity biorhythm music tone
GCT-8 cowboy バリゲード
GCT-9 reflection rainbow block
GCT-10 cross fire crash rally
GCT-11 3d スカッシュ touch down
GCT-12 スクイジー crane
GCT-13 リバシー / ビックメイズ
The GCT-14 ゆ being full ゃ it is that peeling, the ホイ / ゆ being full ゃ it is the graphic puzzle
GCT-16 3d maze / large venture of kitten
UCT-2 mole hitting and keyboard practice 2,200 Yen
Simulation game 5,200 Yen
STC-1 solar system fleet
Victory on STC-2 Mars track
STC-3 operation mall
STC-4 command team
ギャラックス and power pack
And comment of ま can
(1998/6/18 06:04:51)
In the game which in the one for M5 is transplanted from the arcade, as the origin being to be the same name, it does, other things but, just the ギャラックス and the power pack why changed name a little.
As for the ギャラックス, as for the power pack of the guaranty moth with the respective transplantation of the super pack man, as for transplantation of the guaranty moth you think it is many enormously, but, as for transplantation of the super pack man you think whether it is not to be unusual extremely. However, the occasion where the game of the vertical picture is designated as the side picture, because shape of maze has been changed somewhat, rather than calling transplantation, whether it has become the game which is different after all the しれません.
As for the game of the M5 as the element which is cut to the case of transplantation is many, you think e.g., generally there is no relationship or bonus * stage of capacity.
When you compare with the transplantation work of the MSX where hard has been similar to the M5, the VDP being to have been similar well, does, the picture photograph because of the same but, you think whether it does not mean that the MSX has transplanted faithfully in regard to the contents of the game (you have not really compared but).
Comment of Saiey
(1998/6/18 08:50:30)
Fish -. Don't you think? it is the enormous list.
And you called the game of this time of the っ ぱ, don't you think? and others transplantation of the ナムコゲーム is the ディフォ, the ぇ. The ナムコ had put out personally, it is probably will be?
In this game
Comment of bamboo grass well シンヤ
(1998/6/18 13:34:48)
" - It was, it is less crowded and " when the っ て " in the げ ろ げ ろ っ て would like to try doing tremendously in the げ ろ, " it is is, but * & * (^^; Something you are attracted to title.
It is what kind of game what, -, it becomes matter of concern.
The ナムコ personally......?
And comment of ま can
(1998/6/20 16:31:33)
It is the game of the M5, but, as for sale all sawed (the タカラ?) You think that whether it is not to do. It meaning that the package and the like was standardized.
...... Each manufacturer did transplantation job itself, it is the combining ぇ which probably will be?
Super adventure
And comment of ま can
(1998/6/20 17:16:58)
As for the tape edition software of the M5, most was the software for the BASIC-G, but, ' in the げ ろ the げ ろ ' and ' - it was in the げ ろ, it had reached the point where it is less crowded and ' as for 2 ' the super adventure ' with says, plays with the adventure game private cartridge.
' In the げ ろ the げ ろ ' me it has in the げ ろ.
The game, drawing the picture on the line & the paint, is the adventure game of the shape which inputs composition, (as for rough shape of the game, perhaps ' - it was, you think the picture) it is less crowded and ' does not change.
The story and the like has designated certain Tokyo as the stage, it is is, but, at the extremely unsettled place, becoming the protagonist of amnesia different from presently, here and there you walk and turn you think...... with, they were the kind of contents which are said.
Adventure
Comment of bamboo grass well シンヤ
(1998/6/21 23:31:43)
It is enormous, don't you think? is. Putting the adventure private cartridge, there it loads the game from the tape, it is is? Something it is enormous. The ツクール we would like to see by your you cannot make, it is is? Only 2 being, although the て コンスト it is not possible, as for 9800 Yen high * & * (^^;
So, don't you think? the title which at all does not have the tension impression comparatively they are severe contents. We would like to try doing.
Don't you think? the line & the paint that at that time with default of the adventure, don't you think?. As for data compression ratio it is not JPEG some ratio, because is, (laughing)
And comment of ま can
(1998/6/24 13:47:31)
Perhaps, being to think, it does, the super adventure but, from problem of the market of the M5, it stopped making the software at the point in time when 2 of simultaneous sale are produced, you think whether it is not to sell with the intention of making the corresponding software successively whether it is it is not.
As for the software being little, being discontinued midway whether fate of the minor type......
So, there is no construction function, is. So, when you think, with just in order to play with the adventure game, the same price as that BASIC-G is high after all, don't you think? is, (laughing).
Even contents, make the corresponding game with the BASIC-G it may with the thing intimately.